Texas SBOE March 25 testifiers

Thursday, July 16, 2009
The Report below is from the official minutes of the meeting, which are posted publicly months after the event. This list shows the speakers who actually spoke during the meeting, in the order in which they actually spoke. These official minutes are followed in this post by the list that was released before the meeting. [Note: A better version of that pre-meeting list is now posted here]. I am keeping that list here, rather than discarding it, because there have been points of interest and contention over how this was carried out.

Audio files of this testimony, and of SBOE meetings later in that week, are now linked here.

Report of the State Board of Education
Committee of the Full Board
March 25, 2009

The State Board of Education Committee of the Full Board met at 12 p.m. on Wednesday, March 25, 2009, in the State Board of Education Room, #1-104, of the William B. Travis Building, 1701 N. Congress Avenue, Austin, Texas. All members of the committee were present, as follows:

Presiding: Don McLeroy, chair; Rick Agosto, Lawrence A. Allen, Jr., David Bradley, Barbara Cargill, Bob Craig, Cynthia Dunbar, Pat Hardy, Terri Leo, Gail Lowe, Ken Mercer, Geraldine Miller, Rene Nuñez

Absent: Mary Helen Berlanga, Mavis B. Knight

Public Testimony

This item provides an opportunity for the public to present testimony at the time the related item comes up for committee discussion or action. The procedures for registering and taking public testimony at State Board of Education committee meetings and general board meetings are provided at http://www.tea.state.tx.us/index4.aspx?id=3958 or in the information section (yellow pages) of the agenda.

DISCUSSION ITEM

1. Public Hearing Regarding Proposed Revisions to 19 TAC Chapter 112, Texas Essential Knowledge and Skills for Science, Subchapter A, Elementary, Subchapter B, Middle School, and Subchapter C, High School
(Board agenda page I-87)

Public testimony was provided by the following individuals:

1. NAME: Barbara Cobaugh
AFFILIATION: Cypress-Fairbanks ISD

2. NAME: Mary Smith
AFFILIATION: Cypress-Fairbanks ISD

3. NAME: Susie McMinn
AFFILIATION: Self

4. NAME: Lee Wagstaff
AFFILIATION: Self

5. NAME: Debi Weissling
AFFILIATION: Northside ISD

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6. NAME: Patricia Rhoton
AFFILIATION: Self

7. NAME: Juli Berwald
AFFILIATION: Self

8. NAME: Cherry Moore
AFFILIATION: Self

9. NAME: Sally Wall
AFFILIATION: Self

10. NAME: Randy Linder
AFFILIATION: Integrative Biology Section, UT Austin

11. NAME: Randy Daw
AFFILIATION: Self

12. NAME: Diana Walker
AFFILIATION: Self

13. NAME: Kyle Lewallen
AFFILIATION: Self

14. NAME: Raymond Bohlin
AFFILIATION: Self

15. NAME: Sharon Mosher
AFFILIATION: Jackson School Geosciences, UT Austin

16. NAME: Deborah Koeck
AFFILIATION: Texas State University-San Marcos

17. NAME: Richard White
AFFILIATION: Self

18. NAME: Martha Griffin

AFFILIATION: Self

19. NAME: Ann Molineux
AFFILIATION: Austin Geological Society

20. NAME: Donald Ewert
AFFILIATION: Self

21. NAME: Melinda Mills
AFFILIATION: Self

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22. NAME: Bill Vinal
AFFILIATION: San Antonio ISD

23. NAME: Colin White
AFFILIATION: Self

24. NAME: Daniel Boone
AFFILIATION: Self

25. NAME: Randy Guliuzza
AFFILIATION: Self

26. NAME: Robert Rutford
AFFILIATION: Self

27. NAME: Austen Williams

AFFILIATION: Mrs. Arlington/Mrs. Texas

28. NAME: Joy Killough/Karen Hewitt
AFFILIATION: Texas Association of Biology Teachers

29. NAME: Casey Luskin
AFFILIATION: Discovery Institute

30. NAME: David Daniel
AFFILIATION: Academy of Medicine, Engineering, and Science of Texas

31. NAME: Heather Zeiger
AFFILIATION: Probe Ministries

32. NAME: Alison Henning
AFFILIATION: Department of Earth Science, Rice University

33. NAME: Joshua Rosenau
AFFILIATION: National Center for Science Education

34. NAME: Dean Mohlman
AFFILIATION: Self

35. NAME: Wade Warren
AFFILIATION: Self

36. NAME: Victoria Huang
AFFILIATION: Self

37. NAME: Karen Rispin
AFFILIATION: Self

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38. NAME: Travis Tunnell
AFFILIATION: Self

39. NAME: Kelly Coghlan
AFFILIATION: Self

40. NAME: Cynthia McMullen
AFFILIATION: Self

41. NAME: Gary Johnson
AFFILIATION: Self

42. NAME: Abigail Lustig
AFFILIATION: Professor, UT Austin

43. NAME: Ide Trotter for Walter Bradley
AFFILIATION: Self

44. NAME: Josephine Krouse
AFFILIATION: Self

45. NAME: James Norelius
AFFILIATION: Self

46. NAME: Cathy Stein
AFFILIATION: Self

47. NAME: Lois Harbaugh
AFFILIATION: Self

48. NAME: Eugenie Scott
AFFILIATION: National Center for Science Education

49. NAME: David Welch
AFFILIATION: Texas Pastor Council

50. NAME: Don Patton
AFFILIATION: Self

51. NAME: Franki Dockens
AFFILIATION: Self

52. NAME: Gerald Skoog
AFFILIATION: Self

53. NAME: Hiram Sasser
AFFILIATION: Liberty Legal Institute

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54. NAME: Karen Matsler
AFFILIATION: Texas Science Education Leadership Association

55. NAME: Sara Kolb Hicks
AFFILIATION: Self

56. NAME: David Shormann
AFFILIATION: Self

57. NAME: Joe Vail
AFFILIATION: Self

58. NAME: Pierre Velasquez
AFFILIATION: Self

59. NAME: James Westgate
AFFILIATION: Texas Academy of Science

60. NAME: Steven Schafersman
AFFILIATION: Texas Citizens for Science

Dr. McLeroy adjourned the meeting of the Committee of the Full Board at 6:52 p.m.

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Thursday, March 26, 2009

A bid to restore “Strengths and Weaknesses” language to the Texas Science Standards (TEKS) has again been defeated by a 7-7 vote of the SBOE, meeting as a committee of the whole.

The final vote will be tomorrow.

Audio of Eugenie Scott’s 3/25 testimony is here. Other audio will be posted later.
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Note: A better version of this is now posted at https://tw-curricuwiki.wikispaces.com/TXSBOE_March25_SpeakersList .

Here is the list of registrants to speak at the hearings of the Texas State Board of Education on revision of the state’s standards for science education. (Thanks to John Kingman for adding the column at the left with the numbers.)

Predictably, the speakers’ lineup will present an impression of balance that is not warranted by the judgment of those who have expertise — or even just some understanding — of the science. For more on this problem, see my post on coverage of the hearings in November: fair, or “balanced”? (At least this time the inevitable media coverage will reflect a real balance of viewpoints on the list of those who’ve registered to speak.)

Public Testimony Registrations
State Board of Education Committee of the Full Board
Wednesday, March 25, 2009

Item #1 — Public Hearing Regarding Proposed Revisions to 19 TAC Chapter 112, Texas Essential Knowledge and Skills for Science, Subchapter A, Elementary, Subchapter B, Middle School, and Subchapter C, High School

*Viewpoint — Indicates whether petitioner prefers the phrase “strengths and weaknesses” to be Included in or Excluded from the TEKS

Item

Number

Name

Affiliation

Registered

Lobbyist

Viewpoint*

1

Sharon Mosher

Jackson School Geosciences, UT Austin

No

Exclude

2

Joshua Rosenau

National Center for Science Education

No

Include

3

Kyle Lewallen

Self

No

Other

4

Alison Henning

Department of Earth Science, Rice University

No

Exclude

5

Ann Molineux

Austin Geological Society

No

Other

6

Barbara Cobaugh

Cypress-Fairbanks ISD

No

Other

7

Mary Smith

Cypress-Fairbanks ISD

No

Other

8

John Corless

Self

No

Other

9

Susie McMinn

Self

No

Other

10

Lee Wagstaff

Self

No

Include

11

Debi Weissling

Northside ISD

No

Other

12

Patricia Rhoton

Self

No

Include

13

Juli Berwald

Self

No

Exclude

14

Cherry Moore

Self

No

Include

15

Sarah Wall

Self

No

Exclude

16

Randy Linder

Integrative Biology Section, UT Austin

No

Other

17

Randy Daw

Self

No

Include

18

Diana Walker

Self

No

Exclude

19

Deborah Koeck

Texas State University-San Marcos

No

Other

20

Raymond Bohlin

Self

No

Include

21

Martha Griffin

Self

No

Exclude

22

Richard White

Self

No

Include

23

Melinda Mells

Self

No

Exclude

24

Donald Ewert

Self

No

Include

25

Daniel Boone

Self

No

Exclude

26

Colin White

Self

No

Include

27

Joy Killough

Texas Association of Biology Teachers

No

Exclude

28

Randy Guliuzza

Self

No

Include

29

Robert Rutford

Self

No

Exclude

30

Austen Williams

Mrs. Arlington/Mrs. Texas

No

Include

31

Victoria Huang

Self

No

Exclude

32

Robert Crowther

Discovery Institute

No

Include

33

Abigail Lustig

Professor, UT Austin

No

Exclude

34

Heather Zeiger

Probe Ministries

No

Include

35

Josephine Krouse

Self

No

Exclude

36

Wade Warren

Self

No

Include

37

Joanna Boulton

Self

No

Exclude

38

Audris Zidermanis

Self

No

Include

39

Laura Rublee

Self

No

Exclude

40

Franklin Mayo

Self

No

Include

41

Dean Mohlman

Self

No

Exclude

42

Gary Johnson

Self

No

Include

43

Travis Tunnell

Self

No

Exclude

44

Walter Bradley

Self

No

Include

45

Cynthia McMullen

Self

No

Exclude

46

James Norelius

Self

No

Include

47

Cathy Stein

Self

No

Exclude

48

Lois Harbaugh

Self

No

Include

49

Floyd Jerry Lucia

Self

No

Include

50

Andy Ferrell

Self

No

Include

51

Jo Howard

Self

No

Include

52

Jeri Rodgers

Self

No

Exclude

53

Don Patton

Self

No

Include

54

Deborah Parrish

Self

No

Other

55

Chuck Hempstead

Science Teachers Association of Texas

Yes

Exclude

56

Bob Schoolfield

Self

No

Include

57

Douglas Ryan

Self

No

Other

58

David Daniels

Academy of Medicine, Engineering, and Science of Texas

No

Exclude

59

Don McCall

Self

No

Include

60

Steven Long

Self

No

Other

61

Pamela Shaw

Self

No

Exclude

62

Karen Rispin

Self

No

Include

63

Kathleen Green

Self

No

Exclude

64

Pierre Velasquez

Self

No

Include

65

Dan Foster

Academy of Medicine, Engineering, and Science of Texas

No

Exclude

66

Sara Kolb Hicks

Self

No

Include

67

Jamie Vernon

Self

No

Exclude

68

Hiram Sasser

Liberty Legal Institute

No

Include

69

Karen Matsler

Texas Science Education Leadership Association

No

Exclude

70

David Welch

Texas Pastor Council

No

Inclusion

71

James Westgate

Texas Academy of Science

No

Exclude

72

Jill Dutton

Van ISD

No

Include

73

Marsha Correira

Democracy for Texas –Bastrop City Chapter

No

Exclude

74

Kaylon Fenner

Self

No

Include

75

Karen Hewitt

Science Teachers Association of Texas

Exclude

76

Kelly Coghlan

Self

No

Include

77

Joseph Hanson

Self

No

Exclude

78

Mark Ramsey

Texans for Better Science Education

No

Include

79

Joni Ashbrook

Self

No

Exclude

80

MerryLynn Gerstenschlager

Texas Eagle Forum

No

Include

81

Pamela Willis

Self

No

Exclude

82

Casey Luskin

Discovery Institute

No

Include

83

Abril Davila

Self

No

Exclude

84

Anthony Bruner

Self

No

Include

85

David Truong

Self

No

Exclude

86

Jesse Flowers

Self

No

Include

87

Jeff Platzer

Self

No

Exclude

88

Mary Lou Bruner

Self

No

Include

89

James Davis

Self

No

Exclude

90

Jerry Cochran

Self

No

Include

91

Taylor Carr

Self

No

Exclude

92

Cedric Warren

Self

No

Include

93

Steve Takata

Self

No

Exclude

94

Karen Horn

Self

No

Include

95

David Cannatella

Self

No

Exclude

96

Allison Altman

Self

No

Include

97

Brenda Riggs

Self

No

Exclude

98

R.E. Smith

Self

No

Include

99

Tommy Walden

Self

No

Include

100

Carolyn Walden

Self

No

Include

101

Donna Zylderfuden

Self

No

Include

102

Franki Dockens

Self

No

Include

103

Rita Owens

Self

No

Include

104

David Quine

Self

No

Include

105

John Rodgers

Self

No

Include

106

Daniel Harris

Self

No

Include

107

Larry Doolen

Self

No

Include

108

Jack Ripley

Self

No

Include

109

Patrick Herndon

Self

No

Exclude

110

Steven Schafersman

Texas Citizens for Science

No

Exclude

111

David Shormann

Self

No

Include

112

Paul Murray

Texas Citizens for Science

No

Other

113

Gerald Skoog

Self

No

Exclude

114

Eugenie Scott

National Center for Science Education

No

Include

115

Lorenzo Sadun

Self

No

Other

116

Kathy Miller

Texas Freedom Network

No

Exclude

117

Ide Trotter

Texans for Better Science Education

No

Include

118

Nan Clayton

League of Women Voters of Texas

No

Exclude

119

Anita Gordon

Self

No

Exclude

120

Michael Baldwin

Science Teachers Association of Texas

No

Exclude

121

Jonathan Saenz

Free Market Foundation

Include

122

Sandra West

Self

No

Other

123

Terry Maxwell

Self

No

Exclude

124

Paul Henley

Texas State Teachers Association/ National Education Association

Yes

Other

125

Alexia Bieniek

Texas Earth Science Teachers Association

Exclude

126

Laura Ewing

Self

No

Exclude

9 Comments

  1. Scott M
    Posted March 24, 2009 at 6:07 pm | Permalink

    Can that be right? The National Center for Science Education wants it included??

  2. James F
    Posted March 24, 2009 at 6:08 pm | Permalink

    Unless the NCSE has gone turncoat, some of the viewpoints are off….

  3. Posted March 24, 2009 at 7:01 pm | Permalink

    I thought that was a mistake, but email from Josh says “stay tuned.”

    I’m sure they’re not going to be clever in a “cute” way; but it sounds like they’ve got something up their sleeves.

    If Josh does go that early (not a sure thing — they’ve been changing the order in past hearings) I’ll try to get the audio posted here before I leave for classes tomorrow night. Also, I’m sure he will be blogging live at
    http://scienceblogs.com/tfk/

  4. Lorin Rivers
    Posted March 24, 2009 at 7:33 pm | Permalink

    I hope to be speaking myself, but I don’t know if I can wait all day to do so.

  5. Posted March 24, 2009 at 8:41 pm | Permalink

    Testimony will be limited to six hours, and individuals will be limited to three minutes each, plus any time answering questions from the Board.

    Six hours allows for 120 speakers @ 3min/speaker. In past hearings, scientist (e.g., Andy Ellington) were whisked away right at the end of their three minutes, while creationists on the Board have spent up to 15 minutes inviting the answers they want to hear from anybody who’s inclined to give those answers — no matter how unqualified they are on the science.

    McLeroy actually has tried to curb his allies on the Board from extended discussions with these witnesses, but we can bet that the average will be closer to 5 min. at least per speaker, rather than three. So I would optimistically project that only the first 72-120 people on the list will get to speak.

  6. Posted March 25, 2009 at 3:13 pm | Permalink

    Josh answers here:
    http://scienceblogs.com/tfk/2009/03/im_for_sw_apparently.php

  7. Scott M.
    Posted March 25, 2009 at 9:18 pm | Permalink

    Tony, Couldn’t find your e-mail but wanted to pass this along.

    http://sandwalk.blogspot.com/2009/03/stasis-is-data-says-don-mcleroy.html
    Don McLeroy is a creationist dentist from Texas. His claim to fame is that he is the current chair of Texas State Board of Education. That board is trying to insert creationist-friendly standards into the state curriculum.

    Today, the Austin American Statesman published an op-ed piece by McLeroy in which he defends creationism: Enlisting in the culture war.

    The Austin American Statesman link is here:
    http://www.statesman.com/opinion/content/editorial/stories/03/25/0325mcleroy_edit.html

    What is the greatest challenge facing science education in Texas? The answer is simple: to make sure an excellent teacher is in every classroom. What’s the greatest challenge in writing the state science standards? It is identifying appropriate content that builds from grade to grade and leaves our high school graduates college and work force ready. However, the greatest difficulty in writing these standards is the culture war over evolution.

    The controversy exists because evolutionists, led by academia’s far-left, along with the secular elite opinion-makers, have decreed that questioning of evolution is not allowed, that it is only an attempt to inject religion or creationism into the classroom. Even Texas’ 20-year-old requirement to teach the scientific strengths and weaknesses of hypotheses and theories has come under attack. Words that were uncontroversial and perfectly acceptable for nearly two decades are now considered “code words” for intelligent design and are deemed unscientific. The elite fear that “unscientific” weaknesses of evolution will be inserted into the textbooks, leaving students without a good science education and unprepared for the future, compelling businesses to shun “illiterate” Texas.

    more……

  8. Posted March 25, 2009 at 10:05 pm | Permalink

    oooh what happened with NCSE and wanting it included? Do tell!

  9. JohnC
    Posted March 25, 2009 at 10:52 pm | Permalink

    I am on the list as “Other” for my viewpoint, when I clearly expressed the equivalent of “Exclude”. I wonder how this was compiled?


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