Thursday, July 16, 2009
The Report below is from the official minutes of the meeting, which are posted publicly months after the event. This list shows the speakers who actually spoke during the meeting, in the order in which they actually spoke. These official minutes are followed in this post by the list that was released before the meeting. [Note: A better version of that pre-meeting list is now posted here]. I am keeping that list here, rather than discarding it, because there have been points of interest and contention over how this was carried out.
Audio files of this testimony, and of SBOE meetings later in that week, are now linked here.
Report of the State Board of Education
Committee of the Full Board
March 25, 2009The State Board of Education Committee of the Full Board met at 12 p.m. on Wednesday, March 25, 2009, in the State Board of Education Room, #1-104, of the William B. Travis Building, 1701 N. Congress Avenue, Austin, Texas. All members of the committee were present, as follows:
Presiding: Don McLeroy, chair; Rick Agosto, Lawrence A. Allen, Jr., David Bradley, Barbara Cargill, Bob Craig, Cynthia Dunbar, Pat Hardy, Terri Leo, Gail Lowe, Ken Mercer, Geraldine Miller, Rene Nuñez
Absent: Mary Helen Berlanga, Mavis B. Knight
Public Testimony
This item provides an opportunity for the public to present testimony at the time the related item comes up for committee discussion or action. The procedures for registering and taking public testimony at State Board of Education committee meetings and general board meetings are provided at http://www.tea.state.tx.us/index4.aspx?id=3958 or in the information section (yellow pages) of the agenda.
DISCUSSION ITEM
1. Public Hearing Regarding Proposed Revisions to 19 TAC Chapter 112, Texas Essential Knowledge and Skills for Science, Subchapter A, Elementary, Subchapter B, Middle School, and Subchapter C, High School
(Board agenda page I-87)Public testimony was provided by the following individuals:
1. NAME: Barbara Cobaugh
AFFILIATION: Cypress-Fairbanks ISD2. NAME: Mary Smith
AFFILIATION: Cypress-Fairbanks ISD3. NAME: Susie McMinn
AFFILIATION: Self4. NAME: Lee Wagstaff
AFFILIATION: Self5. NAME: Debi Weissling
AFFILIATION: Northside ISDCFB-03/25/2009
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[2nd page]6. NAME: Patricia Rhoton
AFFILIATION: Self7. NAME: Juli Berwald
AFFILIATION: Self8. NAME: Cherry Moore
AFFILIATION: Self9. NAME: Sally Wall
AFFILIATION: Self10. NAME: Randy Linder
AFFILIATION: Integrative Biology Section, UT Austin11. NAME: Randy Daw
AFFILIATION: Self12. NAME: Diana Walker
AFFILIATION: Self13. NAME: Kyle Lewallen
AFFILIATION: Self14. NAME: Raymond Bohlin
AFFILIATION: Self15. NAME: Sharon Mosher
AFFILIATION: Jackson School Geosciences, UT Austin16. NAME: Deborah Koeck
AFFILIATION: Texas State University-San Marcos17. NAME: Richard White
AFFILIATION: Self18. NAME: Martha Griffin
AFFILIATION: Self
19. NAME: Ann Molineux
AFFILIATION: Austin Geological Society20. NAME: Donald Ewert
AFFILIATION: Self21. NAME: Melinda Mills
AFFILIATION: SelfCFB-03/25/2009
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[3rd page]22. NAME: Bill Vinal
AFFILIATION: San Antonio ISD23. NAME: Colin White
AFFILIATION: Self24. NAME: Daniel Boone
AFFILIATION: Self25. NAME: Randy Guliuzza
AFFILIATION: Self26. NAME: Robert Rutford
AFFILIATION: Self27. NAME: Austen Williams
AFFILIATION: Mrs. Arlington/Mrs. Texas
28. NAME: Joy Killough/Karen Hewitt
AFFILIATION: Texas Association of Biology Teachers29. NAME: Casey Luskin
AFFILIATION: Discovery Institute30. NAME: David Daniel
AFFILIATION: Academy of Medicine, Engineering, and Science of Texas31. NAME: Heather Zeiger
AFFILIATION: Probe Ministries32. NAME: Alison Henning
AFFILIATION: Department of Earth Science, Rice University33. NAME: Joshua Rosenau
AFFILIATION: National Center for Science Education34. NAME: Dean Mohlman
AFFILIATION: Self35. NAME: Wade Warren
AFFILIATION: Self36. NAME: Victoria Huang
AFFILIATION: Self37. NAME: Karen Rispin
AFFILIATION: SelfCFB-03/25/2009
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[4th page]38. NAME: Travis Tunnell
AFFILIATION: Self39. NAME: Kelly Coghlan
AFFILIATION: Self40. NAME: Cynthia McMullen
AFFILIATION: Self41. NAME: Gary Johnson
AFFILIATION: Self42. NAME: Abigail Lustig
AFFILIATION: Professor, UT Austin43. NAME: Ide Trotter for Walter Bradley
AFFILIATION: Self44. NAME: Josephine Krouse
AFFILIATION: Self45. NAME: James Norelius
AFFILIATION: Self46. NAME: Cathy Stein
AFFILIATION: Self47. NAME: Lois Harbaugh
AFFILIATION: Self48. NAME: Eugenie Scott
AFFILIATION: National Center for Science Education49. NAME: David Welch
AFFILIATION: Texas Pastor Council50. NAME: Don Patton
AFFILIATION: Self51. NAME: Franki Dockens
AFFILIATION: Self52. NAME: Gerald Skoog
AFFILIATION: Self53. NAME: Hiram Sasser
AFFILIATION: Liberty Legal InstituteCFB-03/25/2009
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[5th page]54. NAME: Karen Matsler
AFFILIATION: Texas Science Education Leadership Association55. NAME: Sara Kolb Hicks
AFFILIATION: Self56. NAME: David Shormann
AFFILIATION: Self57. NAME: Joe Vail
AFFILIATION: Self58. NAME: Pierre Velasquez
AFFILIATION: Self59. NAME: James Westgate
AFFILIATION: Texas Academy of Science60. NAME: Steven Schafersman
AFFILIATION: Texas Citizens for ScienceDr. McLeroy adjourned the meeting of the Committee of the Full Board at 6:52 p.m.
CFB-03/25/2009
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Thursday, March 26, 2009
A bid to restore “Strengths and Weaknesses” language to the Texas Science Standards (TEKS) has again been defeated by a 7-7 vote of the SBOE, meeting as a committee of the whole.
The final vote will be tomorrow.
Audio of Eugenie Scott’s 3/25 testimony is here. Other audio will be posted later.
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Note: A better version of this is now posted at https://tw-curricuwiki.wikispaces.com/TXSBOE_March25_SpeakersList .
Here is the list of registrants to speak at the hearings of the Texas State Board of Education on revision of the state’s standards for science education. (Thanks to John Kingman for adding the column at the left with the numbers.)
Predictably, the speakers’ lineup will present an impression of balance that is not warranted by the judgment of those who have expertise — or even just some understanding — of the science. For more on this problem, see my post on coverage of the hearings in November: fair, or “balanced”? (At least this time the inevitable media coverage will reflect a real balance of viewpoints on the list of those who’ve registered to speak.)
Public Testimony Registrations
State Board of Education Committee of the Full Board
Wednesday, March 25, 2009
Item #1 — Public Hearing Regarding Proposed Revisions to 19 TAC Chapter 112, Texas Essential Knowledge and Skills for Science, Subchapter A, Elementary, Subchapter B, Middle School, and Subchapter C, High School
*Viewpoint — Indicates whether petitioner prefers the phrase “strengths and weaknesses” to be Included in or Excluded from the TEKS
Item
Number
Name
Affiliation
Registered
Lobbyist
Viewpoint*
1
Sharon Mosher
Jackson School Geosciences, UT Austin
No
Exclude
2
Joshua Rosenau
National Center for Science Education
No
Include
3
Kyle Lewallen
Self
No
Other
4
Alison Henning
Department of Earth Science, Rice University
No
Exclude
5
Ann Molineux
Austin Geological Society
No
Other
6
Barbara Cobaugh
Cypress-Fairbanks ISD
No
Other
7
Mary Smith
Cypress-Fairbanks ISD
No
Other
8
John Corless
Self
No
Other
9
Susie McMinn
Self
No
Other
10
Lee Wagstaff
Self
No
Include
11
Debi Weissling
Northside ISD
No
Other
12
Patricia Rhoton
Self
No
Include
13
Juli Berwald
Self
No
Exclude
14
Cherry Moore
Self
No
Include
15
Sarah Wall
Self
No
Exclude
16
Randy Linder
Integrative Biology Section, UT Austin
No
Other
17
Randy Daw
Self
No
Include
18
Diana Walker
Self
No
Exclude
19
Deborah Koeck
Texas State University-San Marcos
No
Other
20
Raymond Bohlin
Self
No
Include
21
Martha Griffin
Self
No
Exclude
22
Richard White
Self
No
Include
23
Melinda Mells
Self
No
Exclude
24
Donald Ewert
Self
No
Include
25
Daniel Boone
Self
No
Exclude
26
Colin White
Self
No
Include
27
Joy Killough
Texas Association of Biology Teachers
No
Exclude
28
Randy Guliuzza
Self
No
Include
29
Robert Rutford
Self
No
Exclude
30
Austen Williams
Mrs. Arlington/Mrs. Texas
No
Include
31
Victoria Huang
Self
No
Exclude
32
Robert Crowther
Discovery Institute
No
Include
33
Abigail Lustig
Professor, UT Austin
No
Exclude
34
Heather Zeiger
Probe Ministries
No
Include
35
Josephine Krouse
Self
No
Exclude
36
Wade Warren
Self
No
Include
37
Joanna Boulton
Self
No
Exclude
38
Audris Zidermanis
Self
No
Include
39
Laura Rublee
Self
No
Exclude
40
Franklin Mayo
Self
No
Include
41
Dean Mohlman
Self
No
Exclude
42
Gary Johnson
Self
No
Include
43
Travis Tunnell
Self
No
Exclude
44
Walter Bradley
Self
No
Include
45
Cynthia McMullen
Self
No
Exclude
46
James Norelius
Self
No
Include
47
Cathy Stein
Self
No
Exclude
48
Lois Harbaugh
Self
No
Include
49
Floyd Jerry Lucia
Self
No
Include
50
Andy Ferrell
Self
No
Include
51
Jo Howard
Self
No
Include
52
Jeri Rodgers
Self
No
Exclude
53
Don Patton
Self
No
Include
54
Deborah Parrish
Self
No
Other
55
Chuck Hempstead
Science Teachers Association of Texas
Yes
Exclude
56
Bob Schoolfield
Self
No
Include
57
Douglas Ryan
Self
No
Other
58
David Daniels
Academy of Medicine, Engineering, and Science of Texas
No
Exclude
59
Don McCall
Self
No
Include
60
Steven Long
Self
No
Other
61
Pamela Shaw
Self
No
Exclude
62
Karen Rispin
Self
No
Include
63
Kathleen Green
Self
No
Exclude
64
Pierre Velasquez
Self
No
Include
65
Dan Foster
Academy of Medicine, Engineering, and Science of Texas
No
Exclude
66
Sara Kolb Hicks
Self
No
Include
67
Jamie Vernon
Self
No
Exclude
68
Hiram Sasser
Liberty Legal Institute
No
Include
69
Karen Matsler
Texas Science Education Leadership Association
No
Exclude
70
David Welch
Texas Pastor Council
No
Inclusion
71
James Westgate
Texas Academy of Science
No
Exclude
72
Jill Dutton
Van ISD
No
Include
73
Marsha Correira
Democracy for Texas –Bastrop City Chapter
No
Exclude
74
Kaylon Fenner
Self
No
Include
75
Karen Hewitt
Science Teachers Association of Texas
Exclude
76
Kelly Coghlan
Self
No
Include
77
Joseph Hanson
Self
No
Exclude
78
Mark Ramsey
Texans for Better Science Education
No
Include
79
Joni Ashbrook
Self
No
Exclude
80
MerryLynn Gerstenschlager
Texas Eagle Forum
No
Include
81
Pamela Willis
Self
No
Exclude
82
Casey Luskin
Discovery Institute
No
Include
83
Abril Davila
Self
No
Exclude
84
Anthony Bruner
Self
No
Include
85
David Truong
Self
No
Exclude
86
Jesse Flowers
Self
No
Include
87
Jeff Platzer
Self
No
Exclude
88
Mary Lou Bruner
Self
No
Include
89
James Davis
Self
No
Exclude
90
Jerry Cochran
Self
No
Include
91
Taylor Carr
Self
No
Exclude
92
Cedric Warren
Self
No
Include
93
Steve Takata
Self
No
Exclude
94
Karen Horn
Self
No
Include
95
David Cannatella
Self
No
Exclude
96
Allison Altman
Self
No
Include
97
Brenda Riggs
Self
No
Exclude
98
R.E. Smith
Self
No
Include
99
Tommy Walden
Self
No
Include
100
Carolyn Walden
Self
No
Include
101
Donna Zylderfuden
Self
No
Include
102
Franki Dockens
Self
No
Include
103
Rita Owens
Self
No
Include
104
David Quine
Self
No
Include
105
John Rodgers
Self
No
Include
106
Daniel Harris
Self
No
Include
107
Larry Doolen
Self
No
Include
108
Jack Ripley
Self
No
Include
109
Patrick Herndon
Self
No
Exclude
110
Steven Schafersman
Texas Citizens for Science
No
Exclude
111
David Shormann
Self
No
Include
112
Paul Murray
Texas Citizens for Science
No
Other
113
Gerald Skoog
Self
No
Exclude
114
Eugenie Scott
National Center for Science Education
No
Include
115
Lorenzo Sadun
Self
No
Other
116
Kathy Miller
Texas Freedom Network
No
Exclude
117
Ide Trotter
Texans for Better Science Education
No
Include
118
Nan Clayton
League of Women Voters of Texas
No
Exclude
119
Anita Gordon
Self
No
Exclude
120
Michael Baldwin
Science Teachers Association of Texas
No
Exclude
121
Jonathan Saenz
Free Market Foundation
Include
122
Sandra West
Self
No
Other
123
Terry Maxwell
Self
No
Exclude
124
Paul Henley
Texas State Teachers Association/ National Education Association
Yes
Other
125
Alexia Bieniek
Texas Earth Science Teachers Association
Exclude
126
Laura Ewing
Self
No
Exclude
9 Comments
Can that be right? The National Center for Science Education wants it included??
Unless the NCSE has gone turncoat, some of the viewpoints are off….
I thought that was a mistake, but email from Josh says “stay tuned.”
I’m sure they’re not going to be clever in a “cute” way; but it sounds like they’ve got something up their sleeves.
If Josh does go that early (not a sure thing — they’ve been changing the order in past hearings) I’ll try to get the audio posted here before I leave for classes tomorrow night. Also, I’m sure he will be blogging live at
http://scienceblogs.com/tfk/
I hope to be speaking myself, but I don’t know if I can wait all day to do so.
Testimony will be limited to six hours, and individuals will be limited to three minutes each, plus any time answering questions from the Board.
Six hours allows for 120 speakers @ 3min/speaker. In past hearings, scientist (e.g., Andy Ellington) were whisked away right at the end of their three minutes, while creationists on the Board have spent up to 15 minutes inviting the answers they want to hear from anybody who’s inclined to give those answers — no matter how unqualified they are on the science.
McLeroy actually has tried to curb his allies on the Board from extended discussions with these witnesses, but we can bet that the average will be closer to 5 min. at least per speaker, rather than three. So I would optimistically project that only the first 72-120 people on the list will get to speak.
Josh answers here:
http://scienceblogs.com/tfk/2009/03/im_for_sw_apparently.php
Tony, Couldn’t find your e-mail but wanted to pass this along.
http://sandwalk.blogspot.com/2009/03/stasis-is-data-says-don-mcleroy.html
Don McLeroy is a creationist dentist from Texas. His claim to fame is that he is the current chair of Texas State Board of Education. That board is trying to insert creationist-friendly standards into the state curriculum.
Today, the Austin American Statesman published an op-ed piece by McLeroy in which he defends creationism: Enlisting in the culture war.
The Austin American Statesman link is here:
http://www.statesman.com/opinion/content/editorial/stories/03/25/0325mcleroy_edit.html
What is the greatest challenge facing science education in Texas? The answer is simple: to make sure an excellent teacher is in every classroom. What’s the greatest challenge in writing the state science standards? It is identifying appropriate content that builds from grade to grade and leaves our high school graduates college and work force ready. However, the greatest difficulty in writing these standards is the culture war over evolution.
The controversy exists because evolutionists, led by academia’s far-left, along with the secular elite opinion-makers, have decreed that questioning of evolution is not allowed, that it is only an attempt to inject religion or creationism into the classroom. Even Texas’ 20-year-old requirement to teach the scientific strengths and weaknesses of hypotheses and theories has come under attack. Words that were uncontroversial and perfectly acceptable for nearly two decades are now considered “code words” for intelligent design and are deemed unscientific. The elite fear that “unscientific” weaknesses of evolution will be inserted into the textbooks, leaving students without a good science education and unprepared for the future, compelling businesses to shun “illiterate” Texas.
more……
oooh what happened with NCSE and wanting it included? Do tell!
I am on the list as “Other” for my viewpoint, when I clearly expressed the equivalent of “Exclude”. I wonder how this was compiled?
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